Originally by: Kiri Ghostrunner

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Originally by: CCP

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It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked.
All probes can now contribute to a scan result, as opposed to the previous limit of four.

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Hmm ... I wonder how hard it will be to probe out the old 'unprobeable' setups ...

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Originally by: Bethamene

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Originally by: Alabugin

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Quote:

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It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked.

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This really needed to be done. I live in NPC Curse space - and I tell you it is ****ing rediculous that you can have loki/tengu running around happily in Curse doing lvl 4 missions carefree in 0.0 making 100mISK/hr.

Feel that *****es? Those are my probes...and something else too

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cry more

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Originally by: Shepak

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Don't know if someone's mentioned this already, but in the Fixes - Character Creation and New Player Experience section of the Patch Notes, it says

"Completing the first mission of the Minmatar NOE Epic Arc will result in the correct rookie ship being given as the mission reward."

I think it's meant to say NPE instead of NOE?

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Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent

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I am looking forward to this, I think it will be great.

Despite losing a day of Eve to downtime (and wondering what real life really means) I think the new content will make up for it.

Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do...

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Originally by: Clementine A

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Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent

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I am looking forward to this, I think it will be great.

Despite losing a day of Eve to downtime (and wondering what real life really means) I think the new content will make up for it.

Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do...

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Perhaps stuff like code deployment, database migration, extended testing, ....

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Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent

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Thank you for the link but not the sarcasm ;)

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Originally by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi

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Originally by: G'Shad

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If I have been reading this thread correctly, it is a lot of ôcomplain complain complain, T3 boosting alts can no longer use an exploit to make them unable to be found . . . complain complain complain, computers till running on coal/steam have trouble loading the avatar graphics, complain complain complain, nVidia happens to be paying to have their three seconds of load time in the intro rather than ATIö

Personally, I say thumbs up to you CCP for continuing to try and move towards a game that avoids nonsensical exploits and for working to keep you game looking fresh and up to date. I would hate to see EVE go the way of so many other long running MMO, aging poorly because their owning companies are to cheap to go about updating graphics.

The changes to eliminate unscannable ships will not have great impact on the number of people using T3 boosting alts, it just means the players will need to pay slight attention to the alt and keep them moving around in system. In a month or two it such will be the norm. This is no different than ultra deep safe points. A degree of risk is the balance to the benefit of the command link bonuses.

As for graphic cards, the nVidia and ATI do not play well together. There are minor elements to each card that makes them unique. So CCP is programming in favor of one over the other. Guess what, it happens all the time in the gaming industry.

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I totally approve of this message ^.^

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Originally by: Sunbird Huy

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Edited by: Sunbird Huy on 21/06/2011 13:24:11
Dear CCP(well, we can discuss the first word),

FIRST:
I have been away from EVE for over 5 months, due to work and no internet access. My job is a well paid one, and in all this five months, I have been in contact with friends via e-mail only(only mail-client gets dial-up access to satellite, mucho expensive). Just got back like 2 weeks ago. TO THIS...

This was part of one of my mails:
"Dude, I am getting myself a desktop machine with a large screen so I can f'ing enjoy EVE in full settings, breathtaking and f'ing awesome. On highest settings across the board. Just look up the market b4 I am back and send me some available rigs details..."
I ended up buying a machine driven by AMD Radeon 6970(with 2gb RAM) and a 23" screen. The whole deal cost me a f'ing lot(which I don't mind), taking into account I live in country which average monthly salary is 1/3 of this machine's cost. It was a treat for myself.

Now I read your pathetic patch notes, and I am left with nothing but disappointment.

Second:
With removal of unprobable ships, you have taken away any chances of guerrilla warfare to small groups. And there is no chance in hell that you are to reimburse the players that invested billions of isk into implants and modules for those setups, right? Because, your answer will be, you were just fixing a bug, amirite?

Third:
I don't think that you are being fair to the players. It has been repeated by the player base, for years now, that needs for fixes to PVP are dire. Your path has turned 0.0 into a BLOBODROME, in which small alliances are not meant to survive. NAPFESTs only.
Or your excuse will be: "but look, there is that small alliance holding 6 systems...and only 200 pilots in it, you see it's possible?"
Of course, in 6 months, you will see that alliance stomped out.

This has gone so far, that now, ISK selling Russians can afford to camp gates with Titans and several SC's sensor boosted by 2-3 support ships, insta popping AF's and HAC's gangs which orbit at 100k, because they can. PVP has been consistently nerfed and small gangs are all but eradicated in 0.0. Unless you stalk for a casual sleepy farmer in a belt or something...which is not pvp...

In conclusion, you keep ignoring our questions and our plight. And all we get in return is MILANO/PARIS/NEW YORK in stations, sponsored by NVidia "the way it's meant to be played" TM.

Teh FUK...

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Originally by: Seloena

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guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ?

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Originally by: Nadya Lena

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Originally by: Adrenaline Reaper

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Quote:

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14:00 UTC

Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 21:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon.

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In case people wonder where did that come from, it's from http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385

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Originally by: Atomic-Donkeh Sunji

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Question: IS INCARNA UP YET?

When I open the client it just says the server is offline--I don't get any client updates or anything.
Please respond. I'm panicking.

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Originally by: Sorgenbinder

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Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03

Originally by: Lee Anderson

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Originally by: Seloena

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guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ?

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latest patch and its working (windows)

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Tried downloading this and got:

Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation.

Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
Unexpected end of archive

Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released.

Hey ho.

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Originally by: harqy

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Originally by: Sorgenbinder

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Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03

Originally by: Lee Anderson

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Originally by: Seloena

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guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ?

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latest patch and its working (windows)

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Tried downloading this and got:

Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation.

Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z
Unexpected end of archive

Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released.

Hey ho.

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i downloaded that and installed it succesfully,
^_^ no wait for me till server is up while patching

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Originally by: FinaI Destination

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I realy want to wait a bit till they launch it tru the login screen.
going to take me arround 32 seconds i believe with 120mbit/sec

this way no risk of downloading a non updated patch

Wait safe o/

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Originally by: FinaI Destination

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Originally by: Lee Anderson

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Originally by: FinaI Destination

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I realy want to wait a bit till they launch it tru the login screen.
going to take me arround 32 seconds i believe with 120mbit/sec

this way no risk of downloading a non updated patch

Wait safe o/

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hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing

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http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351426148.png

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Originally by: Miss Dryfly

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und du einer der anderen deutschen spakkos die hier in eve niemand braucht?

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